Alexandre
Article updated on November 17, 2022
The compact SUV Alfa Romeo Tonale will soon be available with its plug-in hybrid engine, a first for the Italian brand Alfa Romeo. The Alfa Romeo Tonale PHEV was unveiled on November 17, 2020Here is the information about it.
While it has surpassed the 20,000 orders for this year 2022Tonale still has a card to play with a long-awaited engine: the plug-in hybrid. With this type of motorization, it is a question of combining a thermal engine with one or more electric motors.
The advantages of this plug-in hybrid engine: the possibility of driving in all-electric mode, the combined power of the internal combustion engine and the electric motor, and the reduction of CO2 emissions. The disadvantage of this type of motorization is that if the battery is not charged, the power will rest solely on the combustion engine, and the weight of the battery has an impact on the car's behavior.
When you know this and you know thatan Alfa Romeo must offer driving pleasure to its driver, we understand the work that the Italian engineers had to do to achieve this goal.
Coming back to the Alfa Romeo Tonale plug-in hybrid, it is the director of Alfa Romeo Jean-Philippe Imparato who revealed the date of presentation on his twitter account: it will be on November 17, 2022.
A new charge of sportiness is about to come... stay tuned. #Tonal #PluginHybrid #AlfaRomeo pic.twitter.com/5dWHAlTdjP
- Jean-Philippe Imparato (@JPImparato) November 8, 2022
And yet, we already have a lot of information about this Tonale plug-in hybrid.
Alfa Romeo Tonale PHEV: what we know
First of all, it is called Alfa Romeo Tonale Q4. In fact, the combustion engine at the front combined with the electric motor at the rear allows the model to have four-wheel drive, as opposed to the MHEV version which is a front-wheel drive.
Then, the gasoline engine will be a 1.3L turbo of 180 hp combined with an electric motor of 90 KW, that is to say 120 hp. The total power will be 280 hp (yes 180 + 120 it does not make 280 we know). It is coupled with a 6-speed automatic gearbox. Alfa Romeo promises a safe, comfortable and fun drive on the road.
The battery will have a capacity of 15.5 kWh, which adds a weight of 125 kg to the car, for a total of 1835 kg. A full charge of the battery takes less than 2.5 hours when using the on-board 7.4 kW charger.
In terms of performance, the 0 to 100 km/h will be achieved in 6.2 seconds. The top speed will be 206 km/h in hybrid mode, 135 km/h in electric mode. For comparison, the 280 hp gasoline Stelvio achieves 0 to 100 km/h in 5.7 seconds.
CO2 emissions are a maximum of 26g/km.
The total autonomy is 80 km in all electric and 600 km in thermal + electric.
Finally, regarding the appearance of the Tonale, The exhaust outlets are visible and the modified biscione logo appears.
Alfa Romeo Tonale Q4 Special Edition
On the occasion of the launch of the hybrid model, a "Special Edition" version will be offered for order which will be the highest level of equipment with 20″ alloy wheels, red brembo calipers, etc.
It can be ordered in the next few hours because we still don't know its price...
If only they could bring out the Giulia QV as a hybrid, with the current V6, so that we don't have to pay the murderous malus...
I have the impression that we have more chance to win at the Euromillion that it happens one day as for the 4 cylinder while at Maserati it is there (incomprehensible).
Make 2 masterpieces and leave them to rot!
Like the 4C, the 124, the Ghibli... it's like shooting yourself in the foot!
Super !!!!
What a pleasure !!!!!
To discover ;;;
I finally had one in the mirrors this morning, bof. Except for the lights that remind me of the look of my Brera, for the rte: a red van.
After if this is the passion of the car in 2022
The profile of the Brera is not very good, especially when you see the concept up close which was beautiful.
Yes, yes, of course, that's your opinion, not mine.
The thumbs up in the street is to let me know that my car is ugly.
Thumbs up in the street? If you say so we won't upset you but the Tonale is much more pleasant than the Brera but being an SUV.
Thumbs up in the street? (If you say so we won't upset you) but the Tonale is much nicer than the Brera in terms of design even though it is an SUV because it is more balanced.
The Brera could have been great as a crosswagon coupe, maybe (but with the Busso and not this V6 Holden that leaves you speechless or with the 1.75 Turbo at best).
Talk about annoyance for a questioning of a statement, if it makes you happy, make yourself happy!
A van cut in a square shape, nicer than a coupe, no, clearly not. Talking about balance for a tall, square thing, yes, indeed, a square has a not very complex and very balanced shape.
The design of the suvs is appalling. Apart from Ferrari, for the moment, no manufacturer has been able to draw a line that makes these trucks beautiful to look at.
And well on this V6 that only benefits from a low Australian engine, which leaves you unmoved, the usual cliché, perfect formatting.
The formatting, well, let's see. I would say tried many times and all Alfistas are unanimous that is why the Brera was a resounding failure to the point.
Yes when you look at the design of this SUV, if it would not be high on legs, it would be more sensual than the failed design of the Brera and there is not only the low engine which is of Holden origin because there are very few modifications made by Alfa which could not do anything to make it enthusiastic (by leaving on such a base, all would have broken the teeth), same problem with the V6 Toyota at Lotus which functions the same and which is heavy as not allowed! The only thing that Alfa tried to work on was the sound, and well, it's a failure, and the same goes for the 2.2, whereas the 1.75 is really very pleasant and its performance has nothing to envy to the other two.
If this coupe would have been as extraordinary as you say it is, many more would have been sold, but we all know the result.
And the Purosangue of Ferrari is a total failure because putting a pillar between the doors while the rear ones are antagonistic is really awful especially when you see how Mazda managed to do without it on the RX8 while having exemplary rigidity and a very light weight (it's true that the rotary piston engine is really light) for a real 4-seater (I'm 6'3" and I'm comfortable in the back). I would not exchange it for anything in the world against a Purosangue (totally missed) and I prefer a Stelvio or a Grecale by far.
I've seen a raised Brera prepared in Italy and well, it changes the game and it fits like a glove and you almost don't get the impression of 2 pieces of cars stuck together (with a Mito GTA rear end).
The Brera is beautiful in my opinion too. Just the position of the pedals is horrible... The concept was not intended to be commercialized, but the design was very popular at the time (and rightly so, again) and led to the production of the car.
The Brera concept was well and truly planned to be produced (except for the door system) and was pushed in the smallest detail as such at the time (Maserati 4200 chassis and its V8) but was refused by Fiat who had the 8C in the cards (even Giugiaro had proposed to make the interior which was refused by Fiat who preferred to use the one of the 159 for the Brera).
It is the concept that unleashed the passion (of which I was a part) and once the production model was released it was a resounding flop (rightly so) and sales were a huge failure and even more resounding for the convertible. The interior was cramped for a 2+2 with non-existent rear seats, the engines were unworthy of an Alfa and the weight of a pachyderm. In short, the failure was justified (rightly so) in every respect.
Violists? I have been since I was a child!
For the line, I must indeed be surrounded by hypocrites and people with bad taste! This car attracts enthusiasts in the configuration that is mine.
Have you tried the Brera in Q2? 140 kg less, avoiding options that are useless, revised aluminum trains, and still that famous V6?
If the top end and pistons are not enough to transform a V6, do as I do, Supersprint on the output, Autodelta headers, and you have a breathing v6, free from the anti-pollution standards that killed the busso.
The 1750 is a variant, it has two defects: turbo and simple 4 cylinders.
Concerning its design and qualities :
European Car of the Year 2007 in Japan.
Best Sports/Cup
European Automotive Design Award 2006
Best Design Award 2006 by Autocar Magazine (UK)
Best Coupe - Croatian Car of the Year Awards 2006
And this is phase 1!
Japan awards a prize to a failed Alfa ???
The only big reproach to make to the Brera? The 60 kg of the original stupid glass roof!
Not sold? Giulia sold? Bad car? The pachyderm stelvio? It should be an incredible success?
For the rest, I leave you to your certainties.
Better a turbocharged 4-cylinder that really works than a wheezy V6 that has no place in a coupe.
To say that the glass roof is the reason for the Brera's weight when it's the platform itself that is a problem, shows that you don't know what you're talking about because the 159 has the same problem. Even at GM they never used this platform. We have seen the versions that no longer have 4WD have almost no weight reduction and this shows that the platform is a pachyderm.
When you see that the small 1.75 turbo is more efficient than the 4 cylinder 2.2 or the V6 and avoids having the weight of a dead donkey on the front axle, it adds a layer.
Being Alfistas for 27 years, the Giulia and the Stelvio are surely selling better than the Brera and its spider, which was a guaranteed flop.
Are you talking about Japan? They are the ones who have absorbed almost all the GTA and GTAm versions of the Giulia.
At least with the Giulia and the Stelvio we are on a real Alfa product with all the DNA that this entails and when they came out were declared as the reference in each of their category, those that the 159 or the Brera has never been.
I looked at one of them. A lot of plastic that is not very exciting, especially the center console, gray plastic very "chip" as for the dashboard. Bottom of door not covered on the front doors, you can see the scrap :-(.
Where to put the key? Why not use the Stelvio's trick?
Where is the Alfa Romeo spirit? Except for the front, the last Renault Megane is better.
The spirit of Stellantis has passed through the soul of Alfa takes a hit.
It's a shame to have waited so long for this.
Having seen the Megane, not only is it not terrible, but I would even say that it is distressingly commonplace. Not to mention the reliability, which if it's like its NPVs... then it's a guaranteed disaster.
But why no hybrid to lower this damn malus on the stelvio...280 hp like the tonale it would be nice while the gasoline version 280 is almost unsellable (+12000 malus!)
Knowing that you just have to install the system established at Maserati in addition. Weird, it's clear
I think it's because the cost of the Stelvio, which is already high, will be even higher, for a CO2 gain that is not extraordinary either (therefore limited reduction of the malus) and for a model that will be replaced in 2025. Technically they know how to do it, rationally the new Alfa Romeo management will not do it. They are to do on future models (b-suv, future stelvio and future giulia).
You may be right, but it's a shame. A real waste.
Alexandre you were right, Alfa has just announced that they will not make a hybrid for the Giulia and the Stelvio for cost reasons but especially because they will stop the models in 2025 (1 year before the officially announced date).
Hoping for a possible correction of the gearbox, very difficult when driving a Giulia with a Zf gearbox
It's true that the ZF is perfect and fits the Giulia like a glove.
It looks like the move to Q4 with the electric motor saves this model.
Model that apparently has no problem selling itself given the number of reservations and purchases.
I was talking about the mechanical and dynamic qualities of the model, this is Alfa after all, and the entry-level model must also have capacities in line with the brand. You also have to look ahead to the next few months, with the simple 1.3 the model is outdated, we have to be honest. Otherwise, still no Giulietta based on an electric 308?
If you don't have a base engine, you can't expect big sales and since this model is made to do volume unlike a Giulia and a Stelvio, it has to be accessible to a lot of people (even if it's quite constraining for Alfa's image, which is not meant to do that since it's the job of generalists). This kind of model will rarely leave the cities, so it is well suited to the clientele even with a 1.3.
We can see the new BMWs on Mini chassis (it's not a joy), so they are not outdated at all but not in line with the brand's DNA... certainly. In short, the car world is evolving even if not in the right direction. A Giulietta based on Peugeot will also destroy the image and the DNA of Alfa even if this kind of customers don't see the difference.... Sad world.
We are not talking about a city model but a 4.50m long vehicle with a 500L trunk and enough to comfortably carry 4 people for several hundred kilometers, it will have all the capacities to go out of the city. The problem with the mild hybrid version comes from the latency of the automatic gearbox, which is what we expect from Alfa and the press was disappointed.
As for an electric Giulietta based on a 308, I don't see any problem, we've had Alfa's based on GM - a certain 159 in particular - that were much worse in terms of dynamics... We'll have to work on the steering to make it very direct, work on lightening the body to keep the weight down, why not reach 4.40m for the line and the living space, and offer rear-wheel drive and the Q4 system. With good Brembo brakes, a 200 horsepower engine and an aerodynamic Alfa line. It won't destroy the image of the brand, on the contrary, it will sell more than the DS, with no real German competition.
I agree with you on the box which is a disaster, as well as the GM platform for the 159 which is also a disaster and which GM did not even take over. I think that for a new Delta, Giulietta or a new Citroën (personally, DS is an aberration), there should be a common rear-wheel drive and 4WD platform (which Peugeot doesn't know how to do), which would be in line with these 3 brands.
That Peugeot shares its platform with Fiat (see also Chrysler which also has its ass between two chairs) is viable because they are generalists who are destined to make large volumes but this is not the case for Alfa, Citroën and Lancia (which by the way could also share it with Chrysler and Dodge).