Lancia continues its renaissance. After a Ypsilon which left a good impression on us at the our first test, Today, the Italian brand officially unveils the first images of the new Gamma. A strategically important model for Lancia's return to the European premium segment. And from the very first glimpse, it's obvious: this Gamma has a strong family resemblance to several models already familiar to the Stellantis group.
A silhouette between Peugeot 3008 and DS N°7
Let's face it: the new Lancia Gamma shares much in common with the Peugeot 3008. STLA Medium platform, similar size, common technical architecture... all this was expected. In the end, it comes as no surprise.
But perhaps the most striking comparison lies elsewhere. Visually, this Gamma is very reminiscent of the new DS N°7. The fastback line, the proportions, the treatment of the rear end and certain angles are all striking. So much so, in fact, that one almost has the impression of seeing two different interpretations of the same project. And the similarity doesn't stop at style.
Both the DS N°7 and the new Lancia Gamma will be produced at the same location: the Melfi plant in Italy. A strategic plant for Stellantis, already heralded as one of the Group's most technologically advanced sites. In other words, the two models will share much more than just a platform. Equipment, technologies, powertrains and probably even price positioning should be very similar. In the end, the choice may well come down to a question of aesthetic sensibility: do you prefer Lancia's Italian refinement, or DS's more French, status-oriented approach?
Already familiar powertrains
Under the body, the Gamma will be based on Stellantis' STLA Medium platform. The official press release confirms several hybrid and electric powertrains.
The 145 hp hybrid version promises a range of over 1,000 km, while electric variants range from 230 hp with over 540 km to a 375 hp AWD version capable of 675 km. A 245 hp configuration with a range of over 740 km has also been announced. Here again, it's hard not to think of the Group's other models, both known and yet to come. But that's not necessarily a problem.
A non-surprise... but not a bad car
Basically, this new Lancia Gamma is exactly what we've been imagining for months. A premium Stellantis SUV with Italian flair, sharing much of its technology with the group's other models. No surprise, then.
But that doesn't mean it's going to be a bad car. Quite the contrary, in fact. The new Ypsilon showed us that Lancia knew how to bring real personality to common technical bases. And this Gamma seems to follow the same philosophy: take familiar elements and transform them with greater elegance and refinement. Now for the most important part: the road test. And despite this feeling of déjà-vu, we have to admit one thing: we can't wait to get behind the wheel of this new Lancia Gamma.
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A superb car, with a distinct style in the Stellantis range, no other SUV in the group resembles it. Yes, its proportions are its own, and it has a style that you won't find anywhere else 😍
Well, Lysandre and Fred, the Peugeot salesmen, won't be able to say I grumbled 😌
xD, very good comment, I love it! En vrai ça fait du bien aussi ^^
Gimmicks that unfortunately mimic too many SUVs. The door cut-out is similar to that of the DS7, I believe.
And always these retros that we find everywhere!
Stellantoc and his cardboard band. Let us have back the Lancia 037 of my childhood.
I thought I was Potté, that felt good too! ^^
Ah, you see, objectivity from time to time feels good! 😬
What's the problem with the mirrors? When the VAG group does it, there's no problem, but there's a problem with Stellantis.
This vehicle wouldn't exist without Stellantis; the FCA Group hasn't offered anything of this size for Lancia in a while!
Are you sure it's the same mirrors on a Macan and a Polo? The same on a Touareg and an Ibiza? Are you?
VW was much criticized for the famous «designer-photocopier», but it was - and still is - easy to recognize a VW, an Audi, a Skoda and a Seat. With Stellantis, this is far from the case.
«This vehicle wouldn't exist without Stellantis, the FCA Group hasn't offered anything this size for Lancia in a while!»
Frankly, I don't know about you, but for me this kind of two-bit argument just gets old.
Without Stellantis, gnagnagna. Meanwhile, under FCA, each brand had its own originality. The Ypsilon is even more blatantly Peugeot rebadged. If they're going to come up with this, they might as well let Lancia die. In any case, like the Ypsilon, it won't sell.
you really do have a short memory: we're talking about the Lancia range, which was all Chrysler, vaguely rebadged under FCA? Even the latest delta had a fiat bravo dashboard. Let's remain serious and objective: Lancia no longer sells enough and hasn't for a long time to be able to afford heavy specific investments. This is an industrial and economic reality.
Your question is a legitimate one: why maintain this brand at all?
«that's really having a short memory: are we talking about the Lancia range again, which was just Chrysler vaguely rebadged under FCA?»
The Ypsilon and Delta were rebadged Chryslers? That's a new one.
Only the Thema 2, Flavia and Voyager were. Incidentally, the reverse also existed: the Chrysler Delta and Ypsilon. We don't need to remind you what they were based on.
Hello bad faith:
The ypsilon is a re-bodied panda (the lever layout gives it away).
The delta is a rebodied fiat bravo (same dashboard): the 1.9 jtd twin-turbo engine is exclusive!
The Musa is a fiat idea with just a hint of recarrosage
the phedra is a re-carrosed 806
In short, what is the difference between Stellantis' and FCA's industrial strategy for Lancia? ????
Exactly, Fred.
Stellantis makes clones... But everyone's been doing it for 50 years!
99 % of the people who will buy this Gamma don't care if DS or Peugeot look alike.
And they have to make clones of all their brands.
Maserati could have clones with the very high-end Alfa or DS.
We see it at Bentley, Audi, Porsche, etc.
«Bonjour la mauvaise fois»
I return the compliment. And you obviously don't know how to read comments. Does the Ypsilon resemble the Panda, for example? No. Likewise the MiTo compared to the Punto on which it's based. Or the Delta 3/Alfa Romeo Giulietta compared to the Bravo 2.
Here, we're talking about the car's lines. You'd have to be in bad faith, or seriously consult an ophthalmologist, not to see in this Gamma a DS n°7!
Musa/Idea and Phedra/806 were niche models.
That's good.
A beautiful clone!
And the Ypsilon will feel less alone in showrooms.
This is uglier tham DS N*7. What a dissaointment. And the 1.2 engine...
The doors are identical to those of the DS7, but I'm rather surprised that the Gamma was supposed to be very close to the DS8, but I have the impression that it's closer to the 3008.
Alexandre Filluzeau has always said the opposite, that the Gamma was never close to the DS8 but to the DS7 (and therefore the 3008).
At the same time, I had seen the model in Turin over a year ago (and not only that) but I signed a non-disclosure document.
It's unfortunate, but I just can't love this Gamma... I'll have to see it in person, but it's more reminiscent of a 3008 than a DS. As a matter of fact (my personal opinion), I find DS lines, in general, much more assertive. Whether you like it or not, you can see where they want to go with the design. On the Gamma, we're clearly looking at a 3008 clone, especially from the 3/4 rear, which is frightening, even the rims have the same philosophy! Add a touch of Volvo EC40 with the rear side fins and you've got it ^^.
I find the whole thing more elegant (not difficult, you might say) than the 3008 III. But the DS7 II profile is too close.
On the other hand, the interior.... is Fiat, isn't it? What's Lancia got in there? And as a bonus, there's that half pizza shovel again, just like on the Ypsilon. Already this is nonsense...
You see Peugeot clones everywhere and this situation is due to Tavares the cost hunter who wanted to make maximum savings everywhere and we see the result today.
All right, calm down, I find this Lancia Gamma quite successful and it has a lot in common with the DS7 but not with the 3008. .
Excellent, thank you. This gamma👌 looks great. Effectively it's a DS7 with less make-up mastoc ( only the extremities change). But why this name that brings back very bad memories? And then Lancia is becoming a Fiat sub-product now, isn't it? Buy this? No
Hi, I like the rear but the front a little less.
Quick question: is the 375hp electric motor the HF version, or will a real HF be presented later?
Excellent comment, it's true that a Gamma HF was originally planned for 2027, like the Ypsilon HF unveiled a year after the classic versions.
It remains to be seen whether the 375 variant will be available at launch, at the latest when the HF is presented.
The design of this Gamma isn't bad at all. We're familiar with the basic design, but it's been much improved. It's elegant, and I think it's a success.
When I see a Lancia Ypsilon (all too rarely), even though I know it's a restyled 208, I like it more and more. If only there were other engines.
Ich finde den Gamma unter den Voraussetzungen, die nun mal gegeben sind, ganz gelungen. Eleganter und ruhiger für den Blick als der zerklüftete DS.
Für mich als Lancista, der parallel auch zum Alfista wurde mangels Alternativen, leider zu groß. Warten wir auf den neuen Delta... ich habe noch den Delta 3 von 2009 und 365000 km auf der Uhr. Mein bestes Auto, meine Frau will ihn nicht hergeben.
Fine car, better this Lancia than no Lancia - by a long stretch. So let's stop whining
There's also DS number 8, based on the same platform and built in the same factory. Originally, it will probably be a new clone for Lancia. We can also guess that the future Lancia Delta will be a derivative of DS number 4.
More clones for an Alfa?
The DS and Lancia brands are in the same boat, with low volumes and a premium image to conquer. Amortizing a common platform with a large number of models will enable these two brands to survive.
I think we'll end up with just one of these two brands, DS and Lancia...
We'll take bets on which one it is?
The rear end is really interesting, but a little too sporty for a Lancia, it's a bit confusing... who should embody the sporty «semi-premium» at Stellantis between Lancia and Alfa?
We're hoping for some attractive combinations of materials inside, and blue velvet is already available from DS.
Stop complaining about Stellantis clones, Gilles Vidal did say that future brands will be much more different than in the days of Tavares, who was obsessed with chasing the lowest possible cost, we'll see in the future.
Aye, aye, General 🫡
Yes, let's hope so, because the policy of clones like the 208, Corsa and Ypsilon has shown its limits. If I understand correctly, we'll have to take another look at Lancia in 5 years' time, if the brand exists by then...
It's a good thing Gilles Vidal was so clear, it's clear that his message got through: now even the rocker panels are identical.
In bad faith, he said future products to come, not those designed during the JPP era.
Here the 2 have already more charm!
We just need to get rid of the engines and stick them with a «real» engine like a 2.9 and 2.5 Turbo GME (transverse) hybrid and only 4WD since it's premium.
Citroën's DS 9 and Lancia's Thema should be reintroduced, still with a real 2.5 Turbo, to accompany these 2 beasts and eliminate all the models below them, while upgrading them every year for 10 years.
We do the same at Chrysler, and that's that.
We're slowly but surely getting back on track.
Gilles Vidal is not responsible for the design of the current models, which dates back to the Tavares period, so let's be patient and stop complaining.
If you want to be credible without at least a 2.0 and 25 Turbo Hybrid, you'd better get moving.
Of course. I'd like to remind you that the Renault models of his time have nothing to do with a Peugeot design, according to him. While the Scenic is very reminiscent of the 3008 II. In short, Vidal promises... we'll see, but I already have my doubts! He's just making a sales pitch
Gilles Vidal is not responsible for the design of the current models, which dates back to the Tavares period, so let's be patient and stop complaining.
«Bonjour la mauvaise fois»
I return the compliment. And you obviously don't know how to read comments. Does the Ypsilon resemble the Panda, for example? No. Likewise the MiTo compared to the Punto on which it's based. Or the Delta 3/Alfa Romeo Giulietta compared to the Bravo 2.
Here, we're talking about the car's lines. You'd have to be in bad faith, or seriously consult an ophthalmologist, not to see in this Gamma a DS n°7!
Musa/Idea and Phedra/806 were niche models.
From the side, yes, they look the same, but the rear and the stamping of the bumper have nothing to do with it, the front and the interior are completely different, so let's stop making a big deal of it and see if it's a success or not!